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How do Vocational Witnesses Prepare for Your Hearing?

One of the least intuitive elements of a Social Security hearing is the vocational witness testimony.  Social Security judges frequently request the presence of vocational witnesses (also known as “VE’s”), independent experts who appear at your hearing to classify your past work and to answer hypothetical questions from the judge about work you might be able to do, given the limitations set out in the hypothetical question.

Vocational experts serve as the bridge between the medical evidence in your case and the work limitations would allow a judge to conclude that there is no work you can perform.

I have written before that I do not consider vocational witnesses as enemies.  They do not make up the hypothetical questions, they just answer them.  As such, I disagree with some disability lawyers who aggressively cross examine vocational witnesses to challenge their credentials or the factual basis of their assertions.  In most cases, the vocational witnesses that appear are part of a panel of experts, and both the judge and the attorney know how the VE will answer a question.  I would resort to an aggressive cross examination if the VE presents testimony that is inconsistent with what I know to be accurate.

One of my readers emailed me a question about VE’s that I have not previously addressed, and I would like to answer it here.  Her question:

What constitutes the vocational evidence reviewed by the VE before the hearing?

In fact, vocational witnesses do prepare for hearings – here is what they do:

  1. they familiarize themselves with your work history.  Your original application as well as several of the other forms your fill out as part of your application contains a job history.  The VE will use this history to identify the types of jobs you have performed during the 15 year period prior to allegedly becoming disabled
  2. they review the Dictionary of Occupational Titles (the “DOT”).  Social Security currently relies on a book called the DOT to characterize jobs.  The DOT contains thousands of jobs, each classified by exertional level – sedentary, light, medium, heavy or very heavy – and by skill level – unskilled, semi-skilled, or skilled.  In preparation for your hearing the VE will classify your past work and identify any transferable skills that arise from any semi-skilled or skilled work you may have done
  3. they anticipate questions from the judge.  VE’s are not lawyers and they don’t, or shouldn’t, have any interest in the outcome of your case.  However, experienced VE’s have been present for hundreds or even thousands of hearings and they generally have an idea about what questions may arise.  In most cases, the bottom line question comes down to whether a claimant can reliably perform a simple, unskilled, sedentary job that is not production based and does not require any significant interaction with co-workers or supervisors.  Every VE has his own list of “the easiest jobs that exist” and ones that I hear often are jobs like “surveillance system monitor,”  “hand packer,” “foil wrapper,” or “textile inspector.”

I am going to be appearing with a VE from the Atlanta area panel and I’ll ask him to elaborate on this answer and I’ll update as appropriate.

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  1. My friend Sandy, age 52, 11th grade ed., appeared for an ALJ Hearing. The VE when asked by the judge if he thought she could do her past work, or any other less sedentary work, replied – NO, that with Her multiple impairments, emotional, mental, and physical, and side-effects of strong pain meds, that she could maybe work 8-16 hours per week maximum, – and never reach SGA! – But the Judge said that since she could lift an 8-lb. gallon of milk, – she(the judge) disagreed with the VE, and Sandy was found “unfavorable”!? – What a shock!

  2. Do the VE’s get Autism training ? How can they conclude that an autistic person with meltdowns if pushed beyond narrow range of abilities can have transferrable skills ? By definition, this is a disability in which transferrable skills are impaired and impossible.

  3. i had a hearing w/o representation nov 4th 09, the judge addressed the fact that i don’t have any skills for a different line of work, and knows i can’t do my prior work…he asked me if i had any family, no i don’t, do i live in my own home, yes, but foreclosure is in the next month, reposession of my car and my daughter’s truck are right around the corner…i’m a 52 year old widow, i’ve got emphysema, chronic degenerative disc disease, osteoarthritis, bipolar, depression, and i fall into one of the few categories in ref to a ‘special period’ and my widow’s benefits…he told the ve he wouldn’t be needing her opinion’s after talking with me, he knows i had to fire my rep because they had submitted so much crap (alot of incorrect info in ref to my past jobs, and the names of my meds) and nothing very current…he asked if i wanted to postpone since i finally found a lawyer to take my case 2 days before the hearing…he knows why i fired my rep…friday (2009)i faxed him a letter of dire need to expidite his decision, which he as made, with the ‘writers’..do i have a chance of winning my claim????

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